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Central

Joined : 19 Sep 2007 Posts : 31
 | Subject: Where's the love? Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:50 am | |
| I've been a big fan of the DD webcomic for awhile now...But I have to say, everyone here is so critical of Mookie's works. Insulting his art, his storylines, whining about too much this, or not enough that.
If you want to be so critical, YOU try doing a webcomic that goes on this long, and YOU try to keep a huge storyline intact throughout it.
Sure, Dominic is a bit self-centered, but it would be hard not to be if you could see the future. If you could manipulate people like that, without even trying that hard, would you?
Saying stuff like "Too much drama!" and being overly critical of Mookie's work seems to be...well, unfair. I mean, he works hard on this webcomic, having to balance it between his real life, and you people. For ONCE, I'd like to see someone PRAISING what Mookie does. He's a better writer than I am, and a FAR better artist. Just my two cents.
Where's the love, man? D: |
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Iron King

Joined : 07 Aug 2007 Posts : 417 Location : The Best Penal Colony Ever
 | Subject: Re: Where's the love? Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:08 am | |
| Is that a challenge?
Edit: I ask merely because if one isn't allowed to criticize a comic because the person hasn't made one, does that mean praising it also requires the effort in making one too?
Just because I don't shoot movies, does that mean I shouldn't say bad things about Lindsay Lohan movies? |
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Java/Schtolty Professor


Age : 20 Joined : 28 Mar 2007 Posts : 855 Location : Arlington, TX
 | Subject: Re: Where's the love? Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:37 am | |
| | Central wrote: | | Sure, Dominic is a bit self-centered, but it would be hard not to be if you could see the future. If you could manipulate people like that, without even trying that hard, would you? |
I think the main problem people have with this is not that he manipulates things (although depending on the situation it can be pretty bad), but the fact that when he does things like manipulate events and people to go the way he wants, he relies solely on his ability to predict the way things will go, rather than do sensible things, like move people who might be caught in the crossfire to safety. And even after all is said and done, there's next to no repercussions. Just about every time, everybody is essentially saying "Oh Dominic, you're so awesome! It doesn't matter that you put peoples lives in danger just to feel the thrill of manipulation. I still love you!!!"
Take the Snowsong arc for example. Dominic went through a ton of manipulation just to let Gregory live out a childhood superhero fantasy, without evacuating the town. Think about it. What would have happened if Dominic had made a slight miscalculation and that ice golem near the end of the arc had killed some people? It would be entirely Dominic's fault, due to the fact that he knew it was going to happen and yet he did nothing to protect the people without access to magic. And even when all is said and done, nobody thinks about things like that. Dominic got a night in jail not because of what I just described, but because of a pun. If he hadn't made that pun, he would have gotten away without even that one night. And that's terrible. _________________  |
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Noxy >->O


Joined : 21 Jul 2007 Posts : 233
 | Subject: Re: Where's the love? Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:45 am | |
| | Central wrote: | | Where's the love, man? D: |
Ahahahahahahahahaha. |
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[Banned by request] Left the forum

Joined : 29 Apr 2007 Posts : 732
 | Subject: Re: Where's the love? Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:28 pm | |
| Central: Actually, if you watch, you'll see that some of us do offer praise at different points. I will usually praise virtually any appearance of Spark, and I'm quite fond of even the worst puns, for instance.
Most of us have something we like, and will comment on that. The big problem is that Mookie has a handful of issues that, for whatever reason, never seem to get addressed. 2-3 years ago, they were usually minor annoyances, like a grain of sand caught in your swimsuit.
Now imagine having that grain of sand stuck there for 2-3 years, and you'll see where some of the animosity comes from. If the current strip hits on a particular person's pet peeve, that person becomes a lot more likely to make a negative comment.
That said, there are a handful of folks who, for some reason, seem to think Mookie is the antithesis of all that should be done in webcomicry. These folks, I don't get, and generally just ignore them. If anything, they actually make it more likely that Mookie will simply discount all criticism, valid and otherwise, simply because it seems like he couldn't win, anyway. |
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linkskywalker Lurker


Age : 21 Joined : 27 Mar 2007 Posts : 2855 Location : I'm a citizen of the world
 | Subject: Re: Where's the love? Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:58 pm | |
| Oh god, this again? Why does EVERY new person have to start this argument ;_; _________________ "Bears have penises. They can stick it in butts." ~LS |
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Gilgamesh

Age : 20 Joined : 09 Apr 2007 Posts : 6948 Location : Australia
 | Subject: Re: Where's the love? Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:59 pm | |
| They expect a 'fansite' to be full of praise? _________________ You're about to die. Scream if you must. |
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PinkSpider Left the forum


Age : 23 Joined : 13 Apr 2007 Posts : 1788 Location : Awesomania
 | Subject: Re: Where's the love? Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:01 pm | |
| Honestly, where's the hate?
I haven't seen any venom attached to the comic. Some criticisms here and there, and a lot of sarcasm. o_O? _________________
| Quote: | | "Love is an irresistible desire to be irresistibly desired." |
Fantastic |
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MGL

Age : 23 Joined : 07 Apr 2007 Posts : 1015 Location : Objection!
 | Subject: Re: Where's the love? Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:10 pm | |
| Because the only valid form of fan commentary is blind praise  _________________ Rules of the Culture of Nice [list][*]First Law: A person may not criticize a webcomic, or, through inaction, allow a webcomic to be criticized. [*]Second Law: A person must only say things that are pleasing to webcomic creators except where such things would conflict with the First Law. [*]Third Law: A webcomic creator must protect his or her creation from criticism as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.[/list:u] |
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Oblivion Lurking Grue


Age : 23 Joined : 17 Sep 2007 Posts : 2231 Location : Right behind you!!
 | Subject: Re: Where's the love? Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:12 pm | |
| To be completely honest, Central, the mere fact that I bother to critique and criticize Mookie's work is evidence that I am a DD fan. If I didn't like it, I wouldn't bother to critique his work or to tell him what I think he's done badly - I simply would stop reading his comic and stop attending his forums. _________________ Oderint Dum Metuant
 
When Bort says "Pleez No Eet", he fsrking means it.
Wanna come with me? I should warn you, you're gonna see all sorts of things. Ghosts from the past. Aliens from the future. The day the Earth died in a ball of flame. It won't be quiet, it won't be safe, and it won't be calm. But it'll be the trip of a lifetime! |
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Central

Joined : 19 Sep 2007 Posts : 31
 | Subject: Re: Where's the love? Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:44 pm | |
| Well, I didn't expect blind praise, and you don't have to be so venomous about it. I just didn't expect people to be SO critical. I mean, I expected some, but I see more than I expected.
And to Java/Schtolty: How can Dominic miscalculate something if he KNOWS the outcome? If you KNOW what you need to do, and you KNOW what will happen when you do it, where's the risk? If its an absolute A+B=C, then, no risk. Of course, he probably is a bit too sure of himself. |
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Noxy >->O


Joined : 21 Jul 2007 Posts : 233
 | Subject: Re: Where's the love? Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:46 pm | |
| Because people with second-sight-shields don't exist.
Because Dominic never actually misinterpreted things that lead to the deaths of certain blue-skinned people.
Because The Grey isn't actually beyond the scope of seers to predict the outcome.
Sorry, but second sight =/= omniscience. |
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Oblivion Lurking Grue


Age : 23 Joined : 17 Sep 2007 Posts : 2231 Location : Right behind you!!
 | Subject: Re: Where's the love? Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:49 pm | |
| Misinterpretation of divinations is half the fun of reading stories about seers. _________________ Oderint Dum Metuant
 
When Bort says "Pleez No Eet", he fsrking means it.
Wanna come with me? I should warn you, you're gonna see all sorts of things. Ghosts from the past. Aliens from the future. The day the Earth died in a ball of flame. It won't be quiet, it won't be safe, and it won't be calm. But it'll be the trip of a lifetime! |
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linkskywalker Lurker


Age : 21 Joined : 27 Mar 2007 Posts : 2855 Location : I'm a citizen of the world
 | Subject: Re: Where's the love? Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:51 pm | |
| I'd say closer to 82% of the fun.
A good 2% at LEAST is justified rape.
10% is strip slays
The rest is "misc" _________________ "Bears have penises. They can stick it in butts." ~LS |
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LadyMacbeth Honor and Virtue


Joined : 31 Mar 2007 Posts : 4279
 | Subject: Re: Where's the love? Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:12 pm | |
| Slays are only 10%? That's less than taxes! _________________ This signature is a line of text meant to signal you that the post you are reading has ended. You may stop at any time, for everyone knows that attempts at a witty piece of writing usually fail. Nothing to see here.
Are you still reading this? No, seriously. You can stop now.
Fine. I'll write smaller. Stop now. Go away.
Please?
Did you honestly copy/enlarge this? Hahahahahaha |
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