Nevrmore: To ban or not to ban

Last edited by on Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:38 pm; edited 1 time in total

Testimony? I can only really speak on what I know. I can understand a temp-ban from the chatbox; he was being a douchebag for the sake of being a douchebag. That is who he is, and he is typically proud of it when he gets a point across.

I do feel a permaban is completely out of line, considering how feelings were hurt, it would seem somewhat silly. Hell, I was raped before, and I've openly discussed that in the "justified rape" discussions, which have gotten quite heated. From personal experience, what I read that was cried over wasn't really justified...but I am also not that person, so I don't know.

One point I have to toss out is that yes, Nevrmore is a troll, but if you're respectful to what he says and engage him in discussion, and ignore his sarcastic snide remarks (that other people here make, from the likes of tender, to parts of the local modsquad) he is generally a fairly thoughtful fella, who can be nice, and quite open to discussing things with a healthy (but sarcastic) dose of civility.

You'll note he liked me, once he figured out who I was. I'm not exactly the most trolling person on the internet, I'd like to think. If I was to guess, he probably liked me because I'm willing to entertain his thoughts and engage him in discussion on a wide variety of topics, and not immediately label him a bunch of angry, mean words. Are there people on the Keenspot forum that get under my skin? Plenty. Some of them are so abrasive with their personal attacks, be they outright, or be they hidden that I'd swear they were made of sandpaper.

Nevrmore is not one of those people. He has the ability to stick to the topic at hand, as opposed to resorting to blatent personal jabs. Really, he's one of the softer, plushier, more huggable trolls I've ever met. You just have to be willing to get to know him.

Kind of like those other trolls on our fansite forums. People like tender. tender has managed to get under my skin COUNTLESS times, due to constant personal jabs stuck in-between his comic discussion posts, but we keep him around. Why? Because he's not really a bad fella. He just likes making random sarcastic jabs at people. Just like some other guy...what was his name?

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Edit: This is at The Lost Eye, since Dotty ninja'd me.

Did you not read the last post?

Okay, I only want people with over a hundred posts (ie, those with an actual interest in this forum) to post here. Anything else will be deleted.
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Honor and Virtue Joined : 31 Mar 2007 Posts : 4278

Why not just lock it? Have those involved PM you.
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Subject: Re: Nevrmore: To ban or not to ban Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:40 pm

I posted! I posted! :P

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Subject: Re: Nevrmore: To ban or not to ban Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:57 pm

He hasn't been in a while. I used to call him out on it all the time, though. The response was something along the lines of "you can't have sweet without the sour".

Well, he might be, but I don't notice. Most of the stuff he did came when I was basically spazzing over the rape stuff, and we were debating just how well (or horribly) the storyline was pulled off.

Subject: Re: Nevrmore: To ban or not to ban Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:55 pm

Yes, Nevrmore's been a member since April in a forum that's only existed since March. Plus, he was a member of Keenspot.

Let's go over a few things

A) Nevrmore's been a forum member a while, and has made it very apparent that he is, in fact, a dick, and a troll.

B) No one had complained thusfar, for months, about anything he has said.

C) Lord Golbez, Tender, Links, Freemage, and myself, have ALL been at LEAST as dickish as Nevr in the past. Most of us have, actually.

D) Suddenly someone complains and his usergroup is changed with NO WARNING. (unless you sent him a PM which I wasn't told about)

E) He is set up for a perma-ban through a POLL with no warning

F) Before the poll is done he IS perma-banned, although luckily it was rescinded to a temp-ban.

G) After the fact, you set up a rule system so you can feel like the "justice" you meted out wasn't a total sham.

I'm not important, and I'm not making a threat, I just want to state now, and clearly, that I think Maulkin handled this rather terribly, and, along with other offenses (such as post edits, sig edits, etc, just for lols) I don't really feel like this is a good community. I do like just about everyone here, but I'm not going to deal with that crap.

So, as said, if the horrible adminship continues I will leave the forum. It's not a threat, or a defense of anyone. What it is is a simple statement of complete dissaproval of how this forum has as yet been handled.

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One hour left until I close the thread.
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Subject: I just wish I could repost what synk wrote. Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:48 pm

I have little to add beyond voicing my agreement with Spider.

Additionally, I consider deleting the posts of those with fewer than 100 posts, claiming they have nothing to add to this dialog, to be in extremely poor taste.
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Shivering Isles Resident Joined : 26 Mar 2007 Posts : 9154

He disobeyed a clear and unambiguous rule. If he had a problem with it, he could have PMed me. Or, if you think he has a valid point to add, you could restate it.

Besides, I'm closing the thread in a few minutes.
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I agree that the 100-post floor is a bit much, seeing as how Dotty (whom I would regard as a serious poster here) only has 200.

Everything else I might've added regarding relative severity of violations has pretty much been said already.

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Topic has been locked.
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Update: Because there was some confusion about the punishment (I reduced the punishment in the second page, I think), I will state it again:

-Banned from the forum for 5 days (which will be lifted on the morning of the 24)
-Banned from the chatbox until further notice (until he can show the mods that the problem won't happen again).
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(Nevrmore has been unbanned)
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