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Maulkin
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|  Subject: Mod spell check  Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:48 am | |
| Would you guys mind terribly if the Mods were allowed to correct spelling and grammar mistakes? I'm not talking about altering the content, I just mean things like not capitalizing the begining of a sentance or mispelled words.
Thoughts?
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| | | | | LadyMacbeth
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| | Subject: Re: Mod spell check Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:53 am | |
| | Sounds good, but you may want a disclaimer in the pun thread, since there will be intentional misspellings. |
| | | | Faolan
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| | Subject: Re: Mod spell check Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:54 am | |
| I dunno. I sometimes misspell things on purpose, or even make up new words on the spot. I say, in the event of gross misspelling, yes. If it can be understood easily, maybe not. Seems like kind of an abuse of power to me, like you're limiting how we can say things. Language changes and evolves quite rapidly, you know. Might be just me.
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| | | | Maulkin
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| | Subject: Re: Mod spell check Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:00 pm | |
| I don't mind intentional mispellings, or done as a joke, but if yu constly mak bad speling and gremer id like to be abel too corect them.
How about this: when a mod/admin corrects a post, they have to add "Corrected by [name] on [date] for grammer and/or spelling errors."
PS: yes, the pun thread will be left alone.
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| | | | Jyazen
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| | Subject: Re: Mod spell check Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:05 pm | |
| No, just no. Although I do agree that a post that is badly misspelled or is hardly understandeable is kinda annoying, it is by all means better left that way rather than mods going around correcting people's grammar/spellings/etc.
Sometimes the reason of bad grammar and spellings might be as simple as English not being someone's first language, but even then, they tried their best to get their message across. Nobody has the right to edit their post to correct misspells or make it easier to understand.
Editing/Deleting abusive/rude posts is something mods are allow to do. To change someone's post is a nono. It makes the mods looks like they have faaaaaaar too much time to waste with nothing better to do than to abuse their power.
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| | | | Faolan
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| | Subject: Re: Mod spell check Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:07 pm | |
| | Maulkin wrote: | I don't mind intentional mispellings, or done as a joke, but if yu constly mak bad speling and gremer id like to be abel too corect them.
How about this: when a mod/admin corrects a post, they have to add "Corrected by [name] on [date] for grammer and/or spelling errors."
PS: yes, the pun thread will be left alone. |
sounds good. Like I said, if the spelling is so bad as to interfere with the understanding of the post, no issue. I just don't want any grammar nazis running around inside my posts, if I end a sentence with a proposition, or if I use cactuses instead of cacti, or use my favorite plural, boxen.
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| | | | Maulkin
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| | Subject: Re: Mod spell check Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:09 pm | |
| | Jyazen wrote: | | Nobody has the right to edit their post to correct misspells or make it easier to understand. |
Er, I actually own this forum, so, yes, I have every legal right to edit everything on it. But I can see the idea behind what you said, how some people might feel insecure with the thought that mods can edit their posts. Which is why I posted this as a discussion rather than said "Hey, mods are now allowed to edit posts for spelling and/or grammar mistakes".
| Faolan wrote: | | ...or use my favorite plural, boxen. |
What's "boxen"? Boxing?
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| | Subject: Re: Mod spell check Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:18 pm | |
| | Rhea wrote: | Case in point
And I think "boxen" is a joke as the plural of ox is oxen, but the plural of box is boxes.. |
We have a winner. I first heard it as part of a Brian Regan skit, and I've been using "boxen" as a plural for box almost exclusively in informal language and writing since.
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| | Subject: Re: Mod spell check Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:19 pm | |
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:D
That put a smile on my face...
So, who wants to get anally raped first? 
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| | Subject: Re: Mod spell check Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:25 pm | |
| | Maulkin wrote: | | How about this: when a mod/admin corrects a post, they have to add "Corrected by [name] on [date] for grammar and/or spelling errors." |
Corrected by Matt on Sunday, 8 April for spelling error. |
| | | | Maulkin
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| | Subject: Re: Mod spell check Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:42 pm | |
| | Matt wrote: | | Maulkin wrote: | | How about this: when a mod/admin corrects a post, they have to add "Corrected by [name] on [date] for grammar and/or spelling errors." |
Corrected by Matt on Sunday, 8 April for spelling error. |
I guess I kinda ran into that one >.<
Okay, I thought it was pretty clear that this is only meant for extreme cases. Misspelling "grammar" doesn't really make it less read-able. Misspelling every other word, not using capitalization, and failing to use commas or other punctuation, does.
That being said, I'm going to run this through spell check, because I'm paranoid about my forumites using evidence against me. And I'm a perfectionist =P
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| | Subject: Re: Mod spell check Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:54 pm | |
| | Irony states that I should add the missing period, but I won't. |
| | | | Jyazen
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| | Subject: Re: Mod spell check Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:51 pm | |
| | Maulkin wrote: | | Er, I actually own this forum, so, yes, I have every legal right to edit everything on it. But I can see the idea behind what you said, how some people might feel insecure with the thought that mods can edit their posts. Which is why I posted this as a discussion rather than said "Hey, mods are now allowed to edit posts for spelling and/or grammar mistakes". |
The first line is what people don't want to see someone say, ie going all "I own this so I have every right...". It just might scare people away, especially the use of the flashy word 'legal'. :P
Yes, forum owners and most mods are allowed to edit things, but it's most of the time, it's only for certain cases, like abusive posting, breaking the rules, etc. Well, illegitimate post can be deleted with a comment like "Make it readable or do not post at all" etc, but most of the cases, minor spelling or grammar error is better left alone.
So all in all, my opinion is if a post is illegitimate, etc, it's better to edit/delete it with a note of why it's deleted, etc. rather than "correct it". Editing someone's post, even just to correct spelling or grammar mistakes, it akin to taking someone's words and changing it. It may just be minor corrections, but it might or might not change what the user intended to say in the first place.
It's ironic that the example I should point out is to look at what Neilen did. Take people's words and edit it. That's what it's like for someone to edit someone post. It's not like I'm going defensive or anything, but it's just in my stance that people needs to be protected against people going around with the power to edit what they posted.
Yes, owner and mods have the power. Yes, they are allowed to edit/delete/remove post they find inappropriate. But no, they should not be allowed to edit someone's post for spelling/grammar. Give people their freedom to misspell and do grammar errors or whatever. Like that ancient cry... "Give me liberty or give me death." :lol!:
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