The Dark Knight

Subject: The Dark Knight Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:11 pm

Anybody see this yet?

http://www.atasteforthetheatrical.com/deathtrap/default.htm

Tell me if the link ain't working.
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Shivering Isles Resident Joined : 26 Mar 2007 Posts : 9693

Is the joker wearing makeup, or what?
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Subject: Re: The Dark Knight Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:41 pm

Well, Heath Ledger is wearing make-up in order to be the Joker, but the Joker himself, no. All the pigmentation in his skin cells faded because he fell in a vat of chemicals. However, the same thing could have happened to Heath Ledger, and he has to wear make-up in order to look normal, and that's how he really looks without it in the trailer.
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Shivering Isles Resident Joined : 26 Mar 2007 Posts : 9693

It doesn't look right for that... the skin in the creases is healthy looking, making it just look like a bad job. The skin on his neck is normal too.
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Subject: Re: The Dark Knight Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:09 pm

Well, maybe his face just got splashed with chemicals or something in this movie. I'm not sure how the creases can be healthy, but only the color in the skin cells was effected, so I don't think the creases matter.
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If they don't get him to look like a good joker then the movie will bomb, big time.
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Subject: Re: The Dark Knight Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:25 pm

I watched the trailer again and I think he is either wearing make-up, or he was wearing his normal person's face make-up and the police wiped most of it off when he was brought into custody.
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Subject: Re: The Dark Knight Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:33 am

Yeah, I've seen that before and I'm interested to see how they pull it off. Most people I've talked to are hardcore fans of Jack Nicholson as the Joker (like myself =D) and they refuse to see this. I'm just curious as to how it'll work cuz I've only ever seen Heath Ledger in movies like Knight's Tale and 10 Things I Hate About You.

Subject: Re: The Dark Knight Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:11 am

Nope, I'd say he has normal skin tone in the movie and is wearing makeup. In various scenes it's different level of smeared.

I get the feeling that they're making him out to be flat-out psychotic, and the makeup is part of his break with reality. Heck, they revamped Batman's origin story for the last movie. It wouldn't be surprising that they'd redo the Joker's.

Overall, I'm rather liking the look and sound of this Joker. I might even like him better than Nicholson's, although I'll have to see the full act. The laugh is marvelous, and I get more of a dangerous, unpredictable vibe off him. Although standing in the street with his head down didn't quite work as well for me. I dunno.
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Subject: Re: The Dark Knight Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:41 pm

I never liked Jack Nicholson as Joker. He didn't seem....devious enough. He was way too goofy, and it felt like he was trying too hard at points. Has anyone seen the old Batman cartoon? The one in the 90's. The Joker in that cartoon was really sinister. That's how Joker should be.
I think in the cartoon, Joker was voiced by Mark Hamill. Though I don't want to see him play Joker in the movie, I just thought he did a good Joker voice. He also appeared in some Justice League episodes.
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Subject: Re: The Dark Knight Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:47 pm

Yes, that was Mark Hamill. He had a marvelous take on the Joker, although the character was a bit hamstrung by the intended audience. He couldn't be vicious enough.
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Subject: Re: The Dark Knight Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:50 pm

So this is a Batman movie, yet the entire trailer is a "look at the Joker!" dance? Okay. Sure, the Joker's awesome and everything, but you think Batman would've featured more in the trailer, since the title does indicate its mostly about him.

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It seems that movies are focusing more and more on the villians nowadays...
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Subject: Re: The Dark Knight Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:55 pm

Well, we've already seen Batman. Joker's the new guy, and his look has changed too, so we want to see him in action.
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Subject: Re: The Dark Knight Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:57 pm

Yup. And they have to make a big deal of him, to clear out the Nicholson memories.
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