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KevinConner
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|  Subject: Re: Ironman  Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:17 pm | |
| | Reitrenner wrote: | Batman begins should have "pissed off" the same fans then. Because they completely REWROTE THE MAIN CHARACTER'S BACKSTORY. LOLWUT?
The movie was amazing.
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They kept batman's core essence. And yes Batman Begins did cause some upstir in the community.
However, what has been done to the joker really has angered far more people than expected. Heath Ledger's last comments of the movie have also upset many fans - not against him but against WB.
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| | Subject: Re: Ironman Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:21 pm | |
| Batman Begins was better than any of the other Batman movies. The guys they picked to play Bruce Wayne, the sheer cartooniness of it all, it wasn't what I liked about Batman, it was more like Beetlejuice.
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| | Subject: Re: Ironman Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:24 pm | |
| I'm not disputing that batman begins was a good movie, faceless. It was (up until the end when the director utterly failed to capture the fight scene).
The point I am making is that they've gone so far off kilter with the joker, it will backfire on them the same way Mr Freeze backfired on Arnold and Shumaker (sp?).
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| | Subject: Re: Ironman Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:07 pm | |
| I think we've derailed Phoenix's Iron Man thread enough. Sorry Phoenix,
Iron Man FTW!
EDIT: Also, I agree with you Kev about the fight scenes. It's starting to become an annoying trend in all action movies, actually. I'd like to know why.
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| | Subject: Re: Ironman Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:47 pm | |
| well Iron Man does look like a good movie, so I am sure the die hards will love it. So I hope fans enjoy it ^_^
I just can't spend my money as freely and I don't feel like supporing a character who killed Cap :(
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| | Subject: Re: Ironman Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:54 pm | |
| Slight  guys. Why is the first page of this thread stretched so much? I don't see any large pictures...
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| | Subject: Re: Ironman Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:01 pm | |
| It's not stretched for me. Though maybe my amazon.com link was a bit large for certain browsers? :O
want me to spoiler the link?
Edit I spoilered the link is it better now?
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| | Subject: Re: Ironman Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:21 pm | |
| | KevinConner wrote: | It's not stretched for me. Though maybe my amazon.com link was a bit large for certain browsers? :O
want me to spoiler the link?
Edit I spoilered the link is it better now? |
Yeah, thanks, that fixed it for some reason XD.
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| | Subject: Re: Ironman Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:33 pm | |
| Well how bout we settle all this fussing and fueding right now...
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EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN BLOODY OPINIONS, IDEAS, THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS! WE ARE ALL STUPID, WRONG AND INSANE, SO LET US EAT CAKE!
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| | Subject: Re: Ironman Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:20 pm | |
| Your img has failed, or were you not trying to load an image?
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| | Subject: Re: Ironman Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:32 pm | |
| | Not trying to upload an image, no idea why that is there. |
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| | Subject: Re: Ironman Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:41 pm | |
| Well,......you still fail.
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| | Subject: Re: Ironman Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:43 pm | |
| I don't know if I'm right here but I thought they had Cpt. America killed off as a character because many of his comics were based in WWII fighting the Nazis. Hence when it was no longer relevant to avoid any huge arguments they had him killed.
I'm no big Cpt. America fan but that's how I understood it.
Edit: Please let this Cpt. America be the last thing derailing my thread. Every comic book hero gets re-written as having a different personality every so often. It keeps them fresh and exciting. Cpt. America in fact probs has several deaths for all I know.
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| | Subject: Re: Ironman Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:51 pm | |
| | He does, several deaths and several differnt people in the roll through his time. And his fighting went past WW2, but not very far. |
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| | Subject: Re: Ironman Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:58 pm | |
| | KevinConner wrote: | Faceless, I own the batman archive editions.
They have an origin for the Joker.
He was a lethal practical joker.
He was never a psycho-homicidal torturing maniac in standard continuity (even then I don't recall a single Elseworlds where this is true).
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They're different mediums, Kevin. The movie will never be the comic. Your perspective is comparable to Stephen King's intense dislike of Stanley Kubrick's adaptation of The Shining. King said that Kubrick failed on many levels, especially with the casting of Jack Nicholson in the role of Jack Torrence. Not surprisingly, when King finally had a say in the production of his work on the screen (The Shining TV miniseries), it failed on many levels. It lacked the necessary intensity.
"Cut-o, cut-o, cut-o!"
I applaud the direction taken to construct Heath Ledger's Joker. I would have been bored to tears watching anything like the "Red Hood" story predictably unfold ("His mask! It has red mirrors! That's how he can see out of it!") or having to sit through another 80s dance breakdown with the Joker (sorry, Jack). Nolan's menace and realism are refreshing changes from the kitsch of Burton and Schumacher.
Ledger's performance looks to be fantastic, scary, exciting, and exhilarating. I've already marked my calender.
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Back on topic: I'm not sure about Iron Man. Marvel's had a terrible track record thus far. They're successful... in exploiting their fan base (see $piderman I, II, III: The Search for More Money), but they haven't produced many meritable movies.
I do like Robert Downey Jr., though. I might see it. |
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