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Conduit
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 |  Subject: Re: World of Warcrack  Thu May 01, 2008 12:03 pm | |
| Well since it seems you guys have made the old itch flare up again, I'll be reactivating my account soon. So heres my main. ^_^
Dilia, 66 NElf Hunter on Stormrage.
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|   | | Porgon
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| | Subject: Re: World of Warcrack Sat May 03, 2008 11:20 pm | |
| I already posted my main on the front page, working on a few alts ...
I sense a rather overwhelming favor towards the Alliance here ... X_x;
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| | | | Daestrum
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| | Subject: Re: World of Warcrack Sat May 03, 2008 11:41 pm | |
| Just got me a new timecard.
Also: See Signature. |
| | | | Ark
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| | Subject: Re: World of Warcrack Sun May 04, 2008 12:28 am | |
| Bigger community.
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| | | | Daestrum
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| | Subject: Re: World of Warcrack Sun May 04, 2008 12:30 am | |
| | Phoenix wrote: | | Bigger beards. |
Fix't. |
| | | | Porgon
All According To Plan
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| | Subject: Re: World of Warcrack Sun May 04, 2008 12:35 am | |
| Bigger community yeah ... but better is the question
The small time I played on Alliance I quickly left simply because I couldn't deal with the constant barrage of n00blets.
Then Burning Crusade came out ... and The Horde started to suck because 9 / 10 Blood Elves are Alliance subs.
I finally got fed up with it, made a blood elf as my main, and now I'm part of Raid 1 of my guild as a healer ... we're hitting Black Temple on monday ^^
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| | | | Daestrum
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| | Subject: Re: World of Warcrack Sun May 04, 2008 12:44 am | |
| | Porgon wrote: | Bigger community yeah ... but better is the question
The small time I played on Alliance I quickly left simply because I couldn't deal with the constant barrage of n00blets.
Then Burning Crusade came out ... and The Horde started to suck because 9 / 10 Blood Elves are Alliance subs.
I finally got fed up with it, made a blood elf as my main, and now I'm part of Raid 1 of my guild as a healer ... we're hitting Black Temple on monday ^^ |
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Do you all see this?
This is where the stereotype of the Alliance originates. People play Alliance for thirty minutes and think they've seen everything it has to offer. Both sides are equally retarded, the difference of retardation varies between realms, but for the most part, you'll find similar morons on both factions.
On my realm, Shu'halo, the Horde are nothing but asshats with nothing better to do than wank their epeens in each other's faces. Likewise, the Alliance are mostly comprised of teenagers who can't get over how much living in the Suburbs sucks. |
| | | | Porgon
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| | Subject: Re: World of Warcrack Sun May 04, 2008 12:49 am | |
| Frankly Thalros, you're a Beast Master hunter without a arena team ... and a mere 1700 lifetime PVP kills - also judging by your handful of raid-gear I'm going to assume you bide your time raiding and avoiding PVP - however - Beast Mastery in a raid environment is more or less useless - you'd be better off with more points in marksmanship however - you still have 20 points in worthwhile talents which even it out somewhat ... and I'll set aside the fact I'm decked in epic gear because given enough time you may as well.
I will however take a moment to point at Azrius who is a subelty rogue ... without hemorrhage.
I'm not saying the horde doesn't have their idiots, and the alliance doesn't have their handful of good players ... but what I am saying is - Yes, the horde has a smaller base ... but that smaller base is made of in general better players.
Also - I didn't learn what I have from the time I spent in the Alliance alone (level 20, more then "half a hour") I've also taken what I can from my time playing agents and with them in shared zones and PVP, so Kahou will either enjoy or nerdrage at this statement - Prove me Wrong.
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| | | | Vault Dweller
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Location : Australia
| | Subject: Re: World of Warcrack Sun May 04, 2008 12:51 am | |
| | I enjoy this statement because it is truth. |
| | | | Daestrum
Dwarf of Ironforge
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| | Subject: Re: World of Warcrack Sun May 04, 2008 12:58 am | |
| | Porgon wrote: | Frankly Thalros, you're a Beast Master hunter without a arena team ... and a mere 1700 lifetime PVP kills - also judging by your handful of raid-gear I'm going to assume you bide your time raiding and avoiding PVP - however - Beast Mastery in a raid environment is more or less useless - you'd be better off with more points in marksmanship however - you still have 20 points in worthwhile talents which even it out somewhat ... and I'll set aside the fact I'm decked in epic gear because given enough time you may as well.
I will however take a moment to point at Azrius who is a subelty rogue ... without hemorrhage.
I'm not saying the horde doesn't have their idiots, and the alliance doesn't have their handful of good players ... but what I am saying is - Yes, the horde has a smaller base ... but that smaller base is made of in general better players.
and Kahou will either enjoy or nerdrage at this statement - Prove me Wrong. |
Unless you play a Hunter in endgame, you have no right to tell me how to play.
You're wrong, either way. Marksman is useless if you don't have the stats to back it up. Currently, the buffs and abilities that come with BM is far, far more useful than being able to get a 2.5k Arcane Shot crit more often.
I suck at PvP. I'm not going to deny that. I don't like PvPing, mainly because it's not a fair game. My battlegroup is comprised mainly of Hordies in S3 whereas most Alliance are still in Outland greens, so we get obliterated. It's not fun, so I don't do it. I'm not interested in the esport that is arena, either. Even if I was, as a Hunter, I wouldn't be worth a damn in it.
You're still generalizing, by the way. Using just your realm, just your faction as a reference is bias. I've played on multiple realms on both sides and have never seen either side as better than the other. |
| | | | Daestrum
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| | | | | Porgon
All According To Plan
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| | Subject: Re: World of Warcrack Sun May 04, 2008 1:13 am | |
| Oh Thalros, I take a guilty pleasure with exotic builds, and don't get me wrong - I'm not telling you how to play - I'm simply saying your build isn't efficient for what you're doing as Beast Mastery is good for leveling up and PVP - usually sicking your pet on your target then running in the other direction.
Much like I can safely say, a priest in healing gear would be best suited for a holy spec, instead of shadow form, though I don't have a priest of my own I've done a bit of looking into the builds.
Also - crits are crits, I do 1.5 K with my trinket when it crits, but I still don't do decent DPS, why? I'm holy, it's a trinket, and that's only when it crits. - doing more damage relying less on critical hits does the best DPS, just so you know.
Also - if you hate PVP then hate PVP, don't blame the horde for being better then you for your sole reason ... because it kinda proves mine, and takes all the fun out of this.
Your Paladin friend? PVP Gear, Karazahn Loot, and Badge Vendor ... uhuh, impressive - look at that PVP gear, the same kind you were saying I'm spending too much time trying to get - oh wait.
Also - my spell crit is a bit higher at the cost of a bit of bonus healing - Spell Crit is important for paladins because they get mana back for their criticals if they take the proper talents - but you apparently didn't know this - But I'll admit, your friend does have better gear at the moment ... simply because it's obvious he's ran Kara far to many times for the sole purpose of Badge grinding and getting what epics are in there that are good for him. However - given some time in my guilds Raid 1 - I have zero doubt I'll soon pass him as we down bosses in the end game, instead of just the opening few raids.
Edit- Raiding? with green boots? oh, you mean Kara, right - we're hitting Hyjal and Black Temple - we run Zul'Aman and Kara more or less just to get 10+ Badges on farm.
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| | | | Daestrum
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| | Subject: Re: World of Warcrack Sun May 04, 2008 1:25 am | |
| | Porgon wrote: | | Oh Thalros, I take a guilty pleasure with exotic builds, and don't get me wrong - I'm not telling you how to play - I'm simply saying your build isn't efficient for what you're doing as Beast Mastery is good for leveling up and PVP - usually sicking your pet on your target then running in the other direction. |
So wrong, so very, very wrong. BM is not a good PvP spec, no matter what you think. When big red is down, you aren't worth a fuck. BM is a PvE spec, first and foremost.
| Quote: | | Also - crits are crits, I do 1.5 K with my trinket when it crits, but I still don't do decent DPS, why? I'm holy, it's a trinket, and that's only when it crits. - doing more damage relying less on critical hits does the best DPS, just so you know. |
I'm not questioning your ability to do damage. I'm not stupid, I can check specs.
| Quote: | | Also - if you hate PVP then hate PVP, don't blame the horde for being better then you for your sole reason ... because it kinda proves mine, and takes all the fun out of this. |
Did you not read what I said? I know, I KNOW, I'm not good at PvP. Coincidentally, so is every other Alliance player in my BG. While the Horde may have control of PvP, we've got a toehold on raiding by a looooong shot.
| Quote: | | Your Paladin friend? PVP Gear, Karazahn Loot, and Badge Vendor ... uhuh, impressive - look at that PVP gear, the same kind you were saying I'm spending too much time trying to get - oh wait. |
Difference there is, he didn't do arena to get his stuff. Doing BGs between raids is acceptable for a raider, but arena takes constant work, and it's a waste of time.
| Quote: | | Also - my spell crit is a bit higher at the cost of a bit of bonus healing - Spell Crit is important for paladins because they get mana back for their criticals if they take the proper talents - but you apparently didn't know this |
I didn't know because I don't play a Paladin, similar to your stupid assumptions about the Hunter class. Either way, mana return means nothing when your heals aren't adequate enough. Niann got huge, huge heals because of his +healing. I believe he managed to heal the MT of Gruul's for 8k, once.
| Quote: | | Edit- Raiding? with green boots? oh, you mean Kara, right - we're hitting Hyjal and Black Temple - we run Zul'Aman and Kara more or less just to get 10+ Badges on farm. |
Kara, Gruul, Mag, The Eye, SSC, and soon to be ZA. I'm working my way into them. You're lucky, as a healadin, you basically get shit handed to you. |
| | | | Porgon
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| | Subject: Re: World of Warcrack Sun May 04, 2008 1:33 am | |
| I'm clearly not going to get to you over any of the BM stuff, so continue on and good luck with it.
However - as far as your friends gear goes - take a close look at it would you kindly? notice the +30 enchants on his head, shoulder, bracer, and gloves. The +80 enchant on his weapon and +60 enchant on his pants - total 260 out of the 500 healing he has over me - his weapon is about 100 better so (I openly admit I need a new mace - but getting a epic one is a bit of a pain in the ass) - if I sat down and wasted materials I could get my +healing up much farther - however I'm waiting until I get gear that's actually worth enchanting instead of wasting it on Kara trash.
And as far as "stupid assumptions" go, let me make it clear I have NEVER been handed anything. I've worked my ass off getting what I have since our guild runs by DKP. need proof of this? look at my bloody weapon! it's BLUE compared to all of my epics, and why is this? because whenever a good mace drops (which is rare to begin with) someone else usually has a higher DKP and gets it.
Also - | Quote: | | Difference there is, he didn't do arena to get his stuff. Doing BGs between raids is acceptable for a raider, but arena takes constant work, and it's a waste of time. |
Arenas don't require constant work, 10 battles a week - and even with a subpar rating you can stack up decent gear with it. Your friend seems to agree with his 3v3 and 5v5 team.
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