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Maulkin
Pretty Pony Princess
Joined : 26 Mar 2007
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|  Subject: Re: what alignment are you?  Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:28 am | |
| Ah, I see - you're going by right and wrong being defined by culture, I'm going by right and wrong being universal. *shrugs* I'd rather not get into that debate.
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Marsco
I Saw The Sign
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Location : 19 miles outside the windy city
| | Subject: Re: what alignment are you? Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:34 am | |
| Agreed. To each his own as they say.
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Ark
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Maulkin
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| | Subject: Re: what alignment are you? Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:12 pm | |
| ???
But your alignment shouldn't change just because you're in a different area... I wouldn't be chaotic evil if I went to Nazi Germany, even though I would try to help and hide the Jews and that would be considered wrong and illegal.
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Marsco
I Saw The Sign
Age : 19
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Location : 19 miles outside the windy city
| | Subject: Re: what alignment are you? Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:19 pm | |
| It wouldn't. You would still be lawful good because thats how you view morality, however in the area you are in you might be considered chaotic evil.
Using WoW(i know horrible example) a lawful good hume might wander into orc territory but he would be viewed as chaotic evil by the residents in said territory.
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BladedFalcon
Professional Blade-For-Hire
Age : 20
Joined : 27 Feb 2008
Posts : 5399
Location : Mexico
| | Subject: Re: what alignment are you? Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:24 pm | |
| This made me remember a quote:
"One People´s terrorist is another´s Freedom Fighter"
Dont remember who the quote is from tough.
Also, i know this does not fit the Lawful good thing, but it shows the way things might change depending from the perspective.
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Ark
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Location : Ontario,Canada
| | Subject: Re: what alignment are you? Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:44 pm | |
| Yeah. Like i said, that is the enternal struggle here. To do what the law says, which in this case is turn over the jews, or to do what is good, which would be to hide them. If you turned them over to the Nazi's you would be lawful evil, lawful neutral at best. If you hid them you would be Neutral or Chaotic good imo. It all changes on the situation. It is possible to still be lawful while using chaotic means to achive a higher goal. The thing is you keep trying to be lawful.
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Oblivion
Magicite Madman
Age : 23
Joined : 17 Sep 2007
Posts : 1970
Location : A Mighty Fine Shindig
| | Subject: Re: what alignment are you? Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:55 pm | |
| Ugh, subjective morality. I hate it so.
That's one of the things I like most about D&D alignments - they're absolute, not subjective.
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BladedFalcon
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| | Subject: Re: what alignment are you? Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:56 pm | |
| Morals dont affect us the true neutrals so, YAY for me! 
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Oblivion
Magicite Madman
Age : 23
Joined : 17 Sep 2007
Posts : 1970
Location : A Mighty Fine Shindig
| | Subject: Re: what alignment are you? Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:58 pm | |
| As for Lawful being a badly-named alignment, I've agreed since day one that it should be Good, Evil, Order, and Chaos (and the various Neutral blends), but as no books/games register it that way I just have mentally tagged "Lawful in alignments = Ordered" rather than "Lawful in alignments = follows the law".
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Maulkin
Pretty Pony Princess
Joined : 26 Mar 2007
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| | Subject: Re: what alignment are you? Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:05 pm | |
| | Oblivion wrote: | | As for Lawful being a badly-named alignment, I've agreed since day one that it should be Good, Evil, Order, and Chaos (and the various Neutral blends), but as no books/games register it that way I just have mentally tagged "Lawful in alignments = Ordered" rather than "Lawful in alignments = follows the law". |
Bingo. I have a strict code of morals, and a strict code of law - the society I live in just doesn't follow the laws, and ignores the morals. Doesn't mean I'm chaotic evil.
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2.72
Joined : 06 Nov 2007
Posts : 712
| | Subject: Re: what alignment are you? Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:05 pm | |
| Oblivion, you're about the fourth person I've met that independently came up with the name "order." I think that it's a fabulous idea.
WotC came up with an even better naming convention, though:
Page 108 – The Nine Alignments [Substitution]
Names like “Lawful Good” and “Chaotic Neutral” are so generic and boring. Strike all alignment names and replace accordingly:
Lawful Good: Superman
Neutral Good: Picard
Chaotic Good: Indiana
Lawful Neutral: Adama
Neutral: Unaligned (you’re still boring)
Chaotic Neutral: Jayne
Lawful Evil: Vader
Neutral Evil: Bender
Chaotic Evil: Mearls
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New Alignment: Batman
Thus, a character would now say, “I am of the Mearls aligment” or “Batman alignment”.
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Oblivion
Magicite Madman
Age : 23
Joined : 17 Sep 2007
Posts : 1970
Location : A Mighty Fine Shindig
| | Subject: Re: what alignment are you? Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:08 pm | |
| | Quote: | Prepared for Anything
You are proficient with a towel. You always have a towel with you.
Prerequisite: Your character must be in the Spelljammer setting.
Benefit: You are able to use a towel for any of the following:
1. Keep your head warm while traveling the moons of Jaglan Beta.
2. Lie on the beautiful beaches of Santraginus V.
3. Sleep in the deserts of Kakrafoon.
4. Create a sail and ride a mini-raft on the rivers of Moth.
5. Use it in unarmed combat.
6. Protect yourself from the awful fumes of a Bugblatter Beast.
7. Wave the towel as a distress signal.
8. Dry yourself off. |
| Quote: | Brown Coat
Cost; 10 gp
Armor/Shield Bonus: +1
Maximum Dex Bonus: +6
Arcane Spell Failure 0%
30-Foot Speed: 30 ft.
20-Foot Speed: 20 ft.
Weight 2 lbs.
Special: +2 bonus on Intimidate checks and a +1 bonus to unarmed attacks.
Special: You involuntarily use words like “’verse,” “shiny,” and “gorram.” |
This needed to be quoted. 
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BladedFalcon
Professional Blade-For-Hire
Age : 20
Joined : 27 Feb 2008
Posts : 5399
Location : Mexico
| | Subject: Re: what alignment are you? Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:10 pm | |
| true neutral... boring?
Bah, we are flexible, that is a whole different story!
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2.72
Joined : 06 Nov 2007
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| | Subject: Re: what alignment are you? Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:12 pm | |
| I actually like playing TN chars too, BF. LN is probably my favourite, but TN can be a great deal of fun.
@Oblivion: yes, it did need to be quoted. WotC had an excellent set of articles up April 1st. I liked the video interview myself, although I suppose that it wouldn't make much sense unless you already saw the other interviews. |
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